POWELL TELLS FROST: MOST EUROPEAN 'LEADERS' ARE LIARS.
POWELL TELLS FROST: MOST EUROPEAN 'LEADERS' ARE LIARS.
Ex-US Secr. of State Colin Powell said Europeans are lying when they deny knowledge of the rendition of terror suspects. Powell said the practice of kidnapping people to places where they are not covered by US law and tortured was neither new or unknown to European 'leaders'.
''PUBLIC OPINION WORLDWIDE IS AGAINST US'' - COLIN POWELL
by Henk Ruyssenaars
FPF - Dec. 18th - 2005 - In an interview yesterday with british TV anchor David Frost, the former american Secretary of State Colin Powell said that quite some so called 'leaders' of European Union countries were lying through their teeth when denying the illegal waves of US torture flights a.k.a. 'renditions' that have plagued the world for years. In diplomacy 'a frank and open conversation' means: 'they fought but did not use arms'. And the by the propagandists of the BBC used word 'disingenuous' means: 'false and hypocritical'.*- And that's exactly what they every day prove to be.
'President' Chirac in France, the despicable and corrupt Berlusconi in Italy, the likwise corrupt Barosso of the EU, the worst traitor and foremost british criminal among the European US stooges: Phony Tony Blair, the hypocritical Schroeder and now Merkel in Germany - which operates huge US bases - like the Quislings of The Netherlands do with 'christian killer' JP Balkenende: all those overdressed liars have known and condoned the hundreds of inhumane rendition flights and the torture for years. Breaching all by them signed conventions concerning human rights.
Powell - who is one of the foremost war criminals himself should know, and clearly states in his TV conversation with Frost that all those liars on toplevel in the EU accepted the illegality of the Americans and their flying Gestapo, which have stooped so low that they have been dragging all others in the gutter for war criminals too.
BILLION $ AGREEMENTS ARE KEPT SECRET: SHUT UP AND PAY UP!
The agreements concerning the European governments and many of the by the US 'run' NATO and UN covered 'war missions' are kept secret: people in the EU countries do not even know how much of their tax-billions are spent on the illegal genocides which they are forced to pay for. It's only the propaganda by the media the warmongers own and blind, cowardly propagandists (not journalists) that this is made possible: never before - not even by Hitler with Propaganda Meister Goebbels - were so many people brainwashed and 'zombied'. Their media and media-people have made all the genocides possible, and hopefully all collaborators in warcrimes will soon be punished, before they succeed in another disaster, the nuclear war with Iran. - [http://tinyurl.com/c2g2q]
POWELL RAPS EUROPE ON CIA FLIGHTS
Yesterday the BBC wrote: "Ex-US Secretary of State Colin Powell has indicated that Europeans are being disingenuous* when they deny knowledge of the rendition of terror suspects. Mr Powell said the recently highlighted practice of moving people to places where they are not covered by US law was neither "new or unknown" to Europe. A number of countries where flights allegedly stopped have said they were unaware of their land being used. (?)
Talking to the BBC wrote Mr Powell also described his difficulties over Iraq. In an interview with Sir David Frost for the BBC World TV channel, he described his disappointment with the failings of US intelligence on Iraq, and his arguments with Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld over the campaign.
'LIKE CASABLANCA'
He was speaking after his successor, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, faced tough questioning about the use of rendition during a recent trip to Europe. She admitted that terror suspects were flown abroad for interrogation, but said this was "a lawful weapon", and denied the prisoners were tortured.
PUBLIC OPINION WORLDWIDE IS AGAINST US - COLIN POWELL
She refused to address claims that the CIA runs secret prisons abroad where suspects are interrogated without reference to international law. But Gen Powell was dismissive of the furore in Europe. "There's a little bit of the movie Casablanca in this, where, you know, the inspector says 'I'm shocked, shocked that this kind of thing takes place'.
"WELL, MOST OF OUR EUROPEAN FRIENDS CANNOT BE SHOCKED THAT THIS KIND OF THING TAKES PLACE...''
The fact that we have, over the years, had procedures in place that would deal with people who are responsible for terrorist activities, or suspected of terrorist activities, and so the thing that is called rendition is not something that is new or unknown to my European friends."
[HR: 'Global Terror by Secret US Death Squads' - http://tinyurl.com/6d9sa]
IMPRESSION OF UNILATERALISM
He accepted that Washington's moral authority was under pressure at the moment. "The United States is going through a period right now where public opinion world-wide is against us. "I think that's a function of some of the policies we have followed in recent years with respect to Iraq and in not solving the Middle East's problem and perhaps the way in which we have communicated our views to the rest of the world, we have created an impression that we are unilateralist, we don't care what the rest of the world thinks. "I don't think it's a fair impression"
Questioned on the evidence held up by the US as proof that Iraq had a weapons of mass destruction programme, he said: "I was deeply disappointed in what the intelligence community had presented to me and to the rest of us, and what really upset me more than anything else was that there were people in the intelligence community that had doubts about some of this sourcing, but those doubts never surfaced up to us." [ ]
[FPF: POWELL - blaming the others] - "OFTEN MAYBE MR RUMSFELD AND VICE-PRESIDENT CHENEY WOULD TAKE DECISIONS INTO THE PRESIDENT THAT THE REST OF US WEREN'T AWARE OF. THAT DID HAPPEN, ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS."
Asked about post-war planning for Iraq, Gen Powell said his state department staff drew up detailed plans, but they were discarded by Mr Rumsfeld's defence department, which was backed by the White House. "Mr Rumsfeld and I had some serious discussions, of a not pleasant kind, about the use of individuals who could bring expertise to the issue. And it ultimately went into the White House, and the rest is well known."
[andend - BBC]
It speaks for itself that anybody considering her- or himself a 'journalist' in the real sense of the word, would NEVER EVER accept a medal, a title or similar from war- and/or other criminals. If the ususally criminal government makes such an offer, it only confirms that the journalist in question has not done it's job properly.
Sir David Frost's interview with General Colin Powell is shown on Sunday 18 December at 1130GMT and 1930GMT on BBC World TV and at 1430GMT and 2130GMT on BBC News24 .
Story from BBC NEWS - Url.: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/americas/4538788.stm
Republicans sidetrack torture bill with unrelated amendment -- Legislation banning torture of detainees in U.S. custody was sidetracked on Saturday when House of Representatives Republicans insisted on adding an unrelated amendment on campaign financing. - Url.: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7838.shtml
* Definitions of disingenuous on the Web: not straightforward or candid; giving a false appearance of frankness; "an ambitious, disingenuous, philistine, and hypocritical operator, who...exemplified...the most disagreeable traits of his time"- David Cannadine; "a disingenuous excuse" - wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
RELATED:
* 'The war in Iraq is illegal' - BBC: video & text-interview of the United Nation's Secretary General Kofi Annan - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/5pl2v
* 'Spreading democracy' - Countries & US Death Squads - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/drnca - A 55' second sound bite concerning the US 'bringing democracy' everywhere - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/5u98v
* 'Crying Wolf' - Media Disinformation and Death Squads in Occupied Iraq - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/7ttx8
* Reference guide to the Geneva Conventions - Url.: http://www.genevaconventions.org
* Al Qaeda – The Database - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/cqx69
* The 9/11 WTC drama was PNAC terror - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/9np7d - It was an inside job - Google - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/7tj9d
* Who's financing? - The 'Federal Reserve' is the absolute biggest crime ever - Url.: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm
* The infamous US 'Lie Factory' - http://tinyurl.com/8ncal
* Help all the troops - of whatever nationality - to come back from abroad! - AND WITH ALL THEIR WEAPONS, WHICH WE WERE FORCED TO PAY FOR BY TAXES - [http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm ] - We need them badly at home in many countries to fight with us against our so called 'governments' and their malignant managers - Url.: http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
* FPF-COPYRIGHT NOTICE - In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107 - any copyrighted work in this message is distributed by the Foreign Press Foundation under fair use, without profit or payment, to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the information. Url.: http://liimirror.warwick.ac.uk/uscode/17/107.html
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Ex-US Secr. of State Colin Powell said Europeans are lying when they deny knowledge of the rendition of terror suspects. Powell said the practice of kidnapping people to places where they are not covered by US law and tortured was neither new or unknown to European 'leaders'.
''PUBLIC OPINION WORLDWIDE IS AGAINST US'' - COLIN POWELL
by Henk Ruyssenaars
FPF - Dec. 18th - 2005 - In an interview yesterday with british TV anchor David Frost, the former american Secretary of State Colin Powell said that quite some so called 'leaders' of European Union countries were lying through their teeth when denying the illegal waves of US torture flights a.k.a. 'renditions' that have plagued the world for years. In diplomacy 'a frank and open conversation' means: 'they fought but did not use arms'. And the by the propagandists of the BBC used word 'disingenuous' means: 'false and hypocritical'.*- And that's exactly what they every day prove to be.
'President' Chirac in France, the despicable and corrupt Berlusconi in Italy, the likwise corrupt Barosso of the EU, the worst traitor and foremost british criminal among the European US stooges: Phony Tony Blair, the hypocritical Schroeder and now Merkel in Germany - which operates huge US bases - like the Quislings of The Netherlands do with 'christian killer' JP Balkenende: all those overdressed liars have known and condoned the hundreds of inhumane rendition flights and the torture for years. Breaching all by them signed conventions concerning human rights.
Powell - who is one of the foremost war criminals himself should know, and clearly states in his TV conversation with Frost that all those liars on toplevel in the EU accepted the illegality of the Americans and their flying Gestapo, which have stooped so low that they have been dragging all others in the gutter for war criminals too.
BILLION $ AGREEMENTS ARE KEPT SECRET: SHUT UP AND PAY UP!
The agreements concerning the European governments and many of the by the US 'run' NATO and UN covered 'war missions' are kept secret: people in the EU countries do not even know how much of their tax-billions are spent on the illegal genocides which they are forced to pay for. It's only the propaganda by the media the warmongers own and blind, cowardly propagandists (not journalists) that this is made possible: never before - not even by Hitler with Propaganda Meister Goebbels - were so many people brainwashed and 'zombied'. Their media and media-people have made all the genocides possible, and hopefully all collaborators in warcrimes will soon be punished, before they succeed in another disaster, the nuclear war with Iran. - [http://tinyurl.com/c2g2q]
POWELL RAPS EUROPE ON CIA FLIGHTS
Yesterday the BBC wrote: "Ex-US Secretary of State Colin Powell has indicated that Europeans are being disingenuous* when they deny knowledge of the rendition of terror suspects. Mr Powell said the recently highlighted practice of moving people to places where they are not covered by US law was neither "new or unknown" to Europe. A number of countries where flights allegedly stopped have said they were unaware of their land being used. (?)
Talking to the BBC wrote Mr Powell also described his difficulties over Iraq. In an interview with Sir David Frost for the BBC World TV channel, he described his disappointment with the failings of US intelligence on Iraq, and his arguments with Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld over the campaign.
'LIKE CASABLANCA'
He was speaking after his successor, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, faced tough questioning about the use of rendition during a recent trip to Europe. She admitted that terror suspects were flown abroad for interrogation, but said this was "a lawful weapon", and denied the prisoners were tortured.
PUBLIC OPINION WORLDWIDE IS AGAINST US - COLIN POWELL
She refused to address claims that the CIA runs secret prisons abroad where suspects are interrogated without reference to international law. But Gen Powell was dismissive of the furore in Europe. "There's a little bit of the movie Casablanca in this, where, you know, the inspector says 'I'm shocked, shocked that this kind of thing takes place'.
"WELL, MOST OF OUR EUROPEAN FRIENDS CANNOT BE SHOCKED THAT THIS KIND OF THING TAKES PLACE...''
The fact that we have, over the years, had procedures in place that would deal with people who are responsible for terrorist activities, or suspected of terrorist activities, and so the thing that is called rendition is not something that is new or unknown to my European friends."
[HR: 'Global Terror by Secret US Death Squads' - http://tinyurl.com/6d9sa]
IMPRESSION OF UNILATERALISM
He accepted that Washington's moral authority was under pressure at the moment. "The United States is going through a period right now where public opinion world-wide is against us. "I think that's a function of some of the policies we have followed in recent years with respect to Iraq and in not solving the Middle East's problem and perhaps the way in which we have communicated our views to the rest of the world, we have created an impression that we are unilateralist, we don't care what the rest of the world thinks. "I don't think it's a fair impression"
Questioned on the evidence held up by the US as proof that Iraq had a weapons of mass destruction programme, he said: "I was deeply disappointed in what the intelligence community had presented to me and to the rest of us, and what really upset me more than anything else was that there were people in the intelligence community that had doubts about some of this sourcing, but those doubts never surfaced up to us." [ ]
[FPF: POWELL - blaming the others] - "OFTEN MAYBE MR RUMSFELD AND VICE-PRESIDENT CHENEY WOULD TAKE DECISIONS INTO THE PRESIDENT THAT THE REST OF US WEREN'T AWARE OF. THAT DID HAPPEN, ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS."
Asked about post-war planning for Iraq, Gen Powell said his state department staff drew up detailed plans, but they were discarded by Mr Rumsfeld's defence department, which was backed by the White House. "Mr Rumsfeld and I had some serious discussions, of a not pleasant kind, about the use of individuals who could bring expertise to the issue. And it ultimately went into the White House, and the rest is well known."
[andend - BBC]
It speaks for itself that anybody considering her- or himself a 'journalist' in the real sense of the word, would NEVER EVER accept a medal, a title or similar from war- and/or other criminals. If the ususally criminal government makes such an offer, it only confirms that the journalist in question has not done it's job properly.
Sir David Frost's interview with General Colin Powell is shown on Sunday 18 December at 1130GMT and 1930GMT on BBC World TV and at 1430GMT and 2130GMT on BBC News24 .
Story from BBC NEWS - Url.: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/americas/4538788.stm
Republicans sidetrack torture bill with unrelated amendment -- Legislation banning torture of detainees in U.S. custody was sidetracked on Saturday when House of Representatives Republicans insisted on adding an unrelated amendment on campaign financing. - Url.: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7838.shtml
* Definitions of disingenuous on the Web: not straightforward or candid; giving a false appearance of frankness; "an ambitious, disingenuous, philistine, and hypocritical operator, who...exemplified...the most disagreeable traits of his time"- David Cannadine; "a disingenuous excuse" - wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
RELATED:
* 'The war in Iraq is illegal' - BBC: video & text-interview of the United Nation's Secretary General Kofi Annan - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/5pl2v
* 'Spreading democracy' - Countries & US Death Squads - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/drnca - A 55' second sound bite concerning the US 'bringing democracy' everywhere - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/5u98v
* 'Crying Wolf' - Media Disinformation and Death Squads in Occupied Iraq - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/7ttx8
* Reference guide to the Geneva Conventions - Url.: http://www.genevaconventions.org
* Al Qaeda – The Database - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/cqx69
* The 9/11 WTC drama was PNAC terror - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/9np7d - It was an inside job - Google - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/7tj9d
* Who's financing? - The 'Federal Reserve' is the absolute biggest crime ever - Url.: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm
* The infamous US 'Lie Factory' - http://tinyurl.com/8ncal
* Help all the troops - of whatever nationality - to come back from abroad! - AND WITH ALL THEIR WEAPONS, WHICH WE WERE FORCED TO PAY FOR BY TAXES - [http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm ] - We need them badly at home in many countries to fight with us against our so called 'governments' and their malignant managers - Url.: http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
* FPF-COPYRIGHT NOTICE - In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107 - any copyrighted work in this message is distributed by the Foreign Press Foundation under fair use, without profit or payment, to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the information. Url.: http://liimirror.warwick.ac.uk/uscode/17/107.html
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Editor: Henk Ruyssenaars
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